RIP DNA’s H2G2, and why axing the BBC’s community websites is a huge mistake
(This story has been updated.)
The BBC’s transformation into a shell, driven utterly by Murdoch-loving government and opposition alike continues unabated with the news that it is to close about 200 websites. In order to make cost-cutting savings of 20% as demanded by a Licence Fee settlement that shores up Middle England’s view that £145.50 per year for the Beeb is SHOCKING AND EVIL (© Daily Telegraph Mail Express), most of the community sites, including 606 and h2g2 are being axed.
It’s a huge pity that a corporation such as the BBC, which aims to create community programming and related services—and that is the only major broadcaster in the UK to bother creating a great deal of British-made output—has essentially been bullied into dumping the majority of its community websites. The argument against the BBC’s output is typical:
The changes are intended to make the BBC website more distinctive and reduce competition with commercial websites.
I’m sure that will come as great consolation to the myriad people cast adrift from the various online communities as the axe falls.
For me, h2g2’s upcoming closure is a particularly sad event. It was the first online community I truly engaged with, becoming one of the original set of editors when then-big-cheese Mark Moxon decided he needed some help. I always felt the direction of the site was wrong (in creating distinct edited articles and hard-linking, rather than following a pattern along the lines of what became Wikipedia), but then the edited guide almost became incidental anyway.
This is because h2g2 became all about community. It’s a massive, important support network for many thousands of people, who depend on it to get through the day. The anti-BBC crowd will yell: “So what? There are millions of forums online—just join some of those!” But that misses the point. As sure as communities in the real world are irreparably torn apart when a local community centre is demolished to make way for something that actually ‘makes money’, so too are online communities wrecked forever by the kind of short-termism lauded by the government, opposition and Middle England, who care only about whether something makes a profit, and not about whether it’s important to people other than themselves.
Update: Nick Reynolds, BBC Online’s social media executive, says in the comments:
Just to correct something here. H2G2 is not actually closing (as has been misreported in some places). We are trying to find a future for the site outside the BBC.
Success here, of course, is not guaranteed. It took the BBC to ‘save’ h2g2 when DNA The Digital Village went belly-up, and people now have an expectation of ‘free’ (both regarding general online social media services and with h2g2 itself); additionally, Wikipedia and Facebook’s rise during that time perhaps makes h2g2 a tougher sell. Still, I very much hope the BBC does manage to find someone to take the site on.
My larger point stands, though, in that demolishing such popular community sites is a poor idea. There’s definitely fat at BBC Online that could be trimmed, but 606 and h2g2 seem more like slicing into the good stuff and chucking it in the bin.
Update 2: Perhaps pre-empting the BBC’s attempts to ‘dispose’ of h2g2, the community has created an area on the site to discuss a potential takeover.
Update 3: Regarding the ‘belly-up’ statement, that refers to h2g2’s original owner, which I mistakenly wrote as ‘DNA’ rather than ‘TDV’. A correction has now been made.
Brilliant post.
The bit that really infuriates me though, is this part:
“The changes are intended to make the BBC website more distinctive and reduce competition with commercial websites.”
Since when has Tory free market capitalism been about REDUCING competition?
Cultural vandalism for the sole purpose of sating Rupert Murdoch’s lust for power and money.
Thank you Craig. So right about the print-based model. If only Douglas Adams had survived another year or so….
Hi – I am the social media executive for BBC Online. Just to correct something here. H2G2 is not actually closing (as has been misreported in some places). We are trying to find a future for the site outside the BBC.
See here for more detail:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/forums/A639056/conversation/view/F77636/T8018187
Thanks
>>The anti-BBC crowd will yell: “So what? There are millions of forums online—just join some of those!” But that misses the point.
You are so right. One of the wonderful things about h2g2 is the fact that the vast majority of the Researchers were brought there through the writings of Douglas Adams. There’s a certain breed that enjoys his works … intelligent, witty. You don’t find that on many online forums.
The Guide itself is unique. The variety of Entries is something that you just can’t find elsewhere. I love the oddball histories and descriptions of everyday items.
Here’s hoping h2g2 can find a new home with someone who will nurture it.
It’s good to know some effort is being made to save h2g2 – as a legacy of Douglas Adams it is important. Of course, now that people have smartphones with brains the size of a small planet, a real-life Hitch-hiker’s Guide with DON’T PANIC on the cover would include GPS, Twitter integration and slick corporate branding…
This is such a shame, though ther writing has been on the walls for quite a while. Am so sad.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the h2g2 party.
~jwf~
What a great post – like most people I’m devasted by this. I’m one of a group of researchers trying to get togther a community consortium to take over h2g2, and we need all the help we can get. Especially edtiors and ex editors who can help…
Please do get in touch..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/entry/A80173361
Or e mail us h2g2communityconsortium@gmail.com or join our google group.. https://groups.google.com/group/h2g2communityconsortium
Hi Craig
People reading this may like to know that there is an open Google Group to discuss a community approach to taking on the task of maintaining and developing h2g2 post-BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/F20154027?thread=8018887
Regards
Ben / Mrs Zen
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Hahahaha DIE 606 DIE!!!!!!
Obviously I agree with this entirely, and wish the h2g2c2 initiative all the best – but “It took the BBC to ‘save’ h2g2 when DNA went belly-up” kind of gives the impression the Beeb only stepped in post-Adams’s death, which isn’t the case – he midwifed the transfer of control, which happened a few months before he died – sorry, ‘went belly-up’ (mmm, tasteful). Unless by DNA you mean something other than Adams himself. It’s a little unclear as written, that’s all…
Faulty memory on my part—I recalled the company being DNA when it was, in fact, TDV (The Digital Village). No offence to Adams was meant or implied. Thanks for the nudge.
I’ve been a user of h2g2 since 2004, seems my PS has been hidden no email nothing to explain this. Well I think H2G2 should be put to rest its had it’s days, now they say it’s got a new home http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2 & what rubbish, all you get is error 500 try change your PS you can’t, this Nick Renolds thinks he’s god talks about the tv licence fee, well the licence fee is an out of date like when the had a dog licence, tv licence is a total rip off all you get are repeats. H2G2 should shut down but it’s in the pipe line to be sold well good look who ever takes it on it’ a heap of rubbish. & I thought the tv series of Hitch Hikers Guld To The Galaxy was so stupid. RIP Douglas Noel Adams. People on H2G2 think they’re god when infact they just human like me, you’ve that many ACES some are nice lots are idiots the moderators think they own the place same with the EDITORS/ITALICS. The users have no manners either. So I hope it sinks like the Titanic did in 1912…… LifesTooShort